so i saw some people discussing how loki in ragnarok shouldn’t have been at all phased or subverted by dr. strange – which i agree with, but also, hey, it’s comedic and you can argue that he was taken off-guard, but upon re-watch, something stuck out to me –
there’s this moment when they appear at the bottom of the stairs and thor rolls down the last couple and stands up and he says
we could’ve just walked.
and it made me think of how magic works in terry pratchett’s novels, how (to paraphrase) the hard part wasn’t turning someone into a frog, it was not turning someone into a frog when you knew how easy it was.
like, the whole scene with dr. strange is just. all magic. all pointless magic. unnecessary magic, when, well. they could have just walked.
whereas loki doesn’t really rely on magic overmuch in the movie – he uses it as a tool, when he needs it, but if the job can be done with plain old non-magical trickery or a knife, he just uses those. he resorts to magic when he’s cornered by valkyrie, he uses it when his goals are most directly accomplished by using magic rather than by other means.
whereas dr. strange is using magic all over his scene, just to use it. just because he can. magic was unnecessary for ninety percent of what he did in that scene, the only time he needed magic was to whisk them away to norway. but he teleported all over the place even when he only needed to move a few feet, gave thor an ever-refilling beer that just spilled everywhere, floated around to make a show of how ~magical~ he was, when…
he could have just walked.
i mean, i’m very sure that the filmmakers intended it for comedic effect, but there’s also a layer there of dr. strange being much less comfortable with magic than loki is – loki doesn’t need to bust out the magic at every opportunity, it’s simply a skill, a tool that is completely under his control and at his disposal. whereas dr. strange (at least in his scene in ragnarok) is showing off, which reeks of insecurity.
i guess i’m thinking… if you take the magic away, loki is still a deadly, formidable opponent with many tricks up his sleeve, but dr. strange is just a guy in a cape.
If Asgardians speak English but originate from Scandinavian folklore, then by all rights shouldn’t Thor, Loki, and company sound like they’re from Minnesota?
Oh, ya, m’name’s Loki, and I am burdened with glorious purpose, doncha know.
This would get me to watch all the Thor movies.
Thor: Aww geeze, I’m gonna need ya to hand over that tesseract there ya? Loki: Oh, good ta see ya, too, brother, thanks for askin’ how I was and all there. Thor: Cheese and crackers, does it seem like I’m in the mood for your games there now then yet?
im hurt but at the same time im from minnesota and im dying becuase this is gold
Let’s be honest right now, Loki has been through too much. First ofall, he was brought up as a person he too late realized he never would’ve been. Then, after trying to be his brother’s equal and failing because of his too emotion-guided method, he decided to kill himself. Yes, he killed himself by letting go of Thor’s grasp. He was later revived by Thanos, the Mad Titan, who, after torturing him, used his ambitions to obtain an Infinity Stone. He was then sent to Earth to complete his mission and there, he stood alone (with an army made up of mere puppets) against a whole planet, and failed again. He was sentenced to life imprisonment and lost all the esteem the people he loved had for him. He was locked up, he couldn’t do anything to save his mother, the only parent-like figure he had ever had, and that regret tormented him, made him go crazy. He was then ready to sacrifice himself for his brother, but then he found a better solution to that, and decided that maybe death wasn’t the right choice this time. He finally got the position he had fought so hard for, he finally ruled on Asgard for four years. Right when he thought he had found his happy ending, Thor revealed his identity to the whole planet, and his plan vanished. Then Odin died, and in his last moments, he recognized Loki as his son, without any distinction between him and Thor, and that probably meant the world for Loki. After Hela broke out of her prison, the brothers were both sent to Sakaar, where Loki seemed so at ease he had no intention of leaving that place. He did try to fool Thor again one more time there, because he was indeed still just the god of mischief. After being electrocuted for who knows how long without even passing out, he came back to Asgard, bringing the ship that would’ve later led the Asgardians to salvation. He fought alongside his brother again, and in the end, it worked out pretty well for them, and they saved Asgard, the people of Asgard. But then, destiny came back for him and this time, this time Loki decided that he would play no more tricks. He evolved, he’s no longer just the god of mischief, he’s become someone who put his brother’s life before his, before the Tesseract, before the universe.
I, Loki, Prince of Asgard, Odinson, rightful King of Jotunheim, God of Mischief…
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