“[Tony] has this sort of existential connection to Thanos.”– Joe Russo
“You realize this interesting parallel between Thanos and Tony. They’re both aware of something from an early point and constantly having to deal with being smarter. Thanos is a futurist as much as Tony Stark.” – Christopher Markus
Tony and Thanos appear to be two heads to the same coin. Between them, they share a lot of remarkable similarities. But what separates them is heart. Tony has compassion, while Thanos does not.
This is emphasized in Avengers: Infinity War. Thanos hurls his adopted daughter, Gamora, off a cliff; while Tony promises his son-figure, Peter, he will catch him when he falls.
Tony wants to save the universe by safeguarding as many lives as he can, while Thanos believes saving the
universe
necessitates massive loss of life. They are equal, yet opposite.
Avengers AU – If Tony was Peter’s biological father
Tony is super protective of his son. And Peter, inspired by his dad, becomes Spiderman anyway (his dad and his Uncle Rhodey figure him out in a second though).
Tony emerging from the rubble of a whole ass moon that Thanos just threw at him and saying “If you throw another moon at me I’m going to flip” is such a power move.
Thanos: you’re going to lose
Tony: bitch throw another moon at me again and we’ll see which one of us loses u lilac motherfuck
The day people learn that MCU Howard Stark is not the Howard from the comics and that he is actually a good person I swear I’ll throw a fucking party.
I mean did people fucking watch Captain America, Agent Carter and Iron Man 2? Cause it seems they fucking didn’t.
What is good about a father who never tells his son he loves him or even likes him? It screams emotional abuse–and that’s ignoring even all the scenes of Tony venting about how much Howard would talk about Captain America to Tony’s face. (It’s implied Howard would compare Tony to Cap and never favorably.)
Howard’s drunken message to Tony on the Stark Expo gag reel doesn’t mean squat because he never said anything to Tony’s face. Even then, on that video, he called Tony his “creation,” which relegates Tony to more of an object in Howard’s eyes than a living, breathing human being. Tony’s existence was all about Howard’s own ego.
In the MCU tie-in comic Iron Man 2: Public Identity (which is considered MCU canon), Howard was physically and verbally abusive to Tony. Tony’s relationship with Howard was so terrible, he was a kid begging to go back to school during his summer break–just to get away from him.
So, no. Howard Stark was not a good person. At all. He was an abusive sack of shit who whittled away at Tony’s spirit since birth. So much of Tony’s behavior today stems from this abject emotional neglect.
The real nail in the coffin with Howard stark is how Tony talked about him in homecoming. He wants to “break the cycle of shame” by doing the one thing his father never gave him; positive reinforcement. Jesus Christ Howard stark can die again
We have literal evidence that he was never there for Tony, that he physically and emotionally abused him and we’re gonna call him a good man?
Yes it has not been as graphic as the comics (because it’s DISNEY) but you cannot seriously think the dude is a good man.
Yes he might have been nice to Steve and Peggy in the 40s. Time passes. People change. Not because he was nice to Steve means he wasn’t a piece of shit father that directly caused his son’s alcoholism, his lack of self esteem, and his dislike of showing his true self to others.
Howard Stark can choke and die on a cactus.
Op deleted bc they couldn’t handle the truth
Come back and face the facts op
The only reason they should bring Hoeward back is to kill him again.
Actually, this is good scientific thinking. You have a problem, you don’t start with the most complex solution, you start with the simplest solution and see whether it would work. If not, you move on to the next simplest solution and so on and so on.
So, in this situation: The problem is that Thanos needs all 6 stones and they don’t have a lot of time to find a solution. Easiest way to fix the problem is to deny him 1 or more of those stones. Easiest way to deny him a stone in a short space of time? Destroy it.
Given that Tony has dealt with 2 infinity stones thus far, I doubt he thinks it would actually work but the other part of science is the concept of ‘there is no such thing as a stupid question’, especially when presented with new and/or unknown variables. So, even if he doesn’t think it would work, he’s dealing with an object that’s a little bit outside even his breadth of knowledge and he’s talking to people who have abilities he doesn’t, so… you ask the stupid question. Can we destroy it?
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